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Telenor Pakistan hacked my Domain
4/16/2008 13:16
Telenor Pakistan Hacked my domain djuice.pk

I was running my blog at djuice.pk and all of sudden it stopped working today.

It is very strange that my domain is being transferred to Telenor Pakistan without any notification to me by my domain registrar.
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4/17/2008 02:59
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4/17/2008 04:27
"""PKNIC reserves the right to cancel, or transfer the domain to the claiming party as per the ICANN's Uniform Domain Name Dispute"""

But no dispute have been started with me.

The Domain Was Registred To Me Before Telenor Got Their Trade Mark Approved.

This is unethical and immoral to decide unilaterally to block hijack a domain without giving any prior notice to the other party.

Thanks for your valuable responses.

My domain have been hacked / hijacked by the Telenor  Pakistan with
the help of PKNIC Pakistan as they have never made a dispute against
me over this. I have been running this blog very successfully from
last one and half year.

Well I know the PKNIC policies and other terms and conditions and I am
also aware of the International rules by the ICANN. In any case before
a domain transfer to the other party who claims that it may be their
trade mark or infringing their rights one have to file a dispute and
the PKNIC should have given me a chance to listen my version of
statement on this issue.

According to ICANN rules malafide intentions by the registrant should
be proofed based on three different point failure of any one of this
does not qualify the domain transfer to other party who make claims on
this.

These points by the ICANN are more or less as follows.

1. A Proof That Domain Was Registered in Bad Faith

2. A Proof That Domain is being Used by a Business Competitor

3. A Proof that Domain is not in Use and is Registered only for Re-Selling

I have an in depth study of different Dispute Cases on Domains However
I am Confident That By Law It was not possible to get my domain. So
after one and half year  Telenor have bribed the PKNIC Staff and they
without listening my point of view blocked my blog.

This transfer is 100% illegal and immoral and call into question the
PKNIC quality of the service. I have shifted my blog to a new domain
http://www.DjuiceBlog.com

I am sure that Telnor can not bribe the .com registry this time.

Shame on Telenor and PKNIC for steeling my domain  with out any NOTICE
without any CASE and without any Chance to LISTEN about my rights on
this DOMAIN.

THIS IS AGAINST THE LAW TO MAKE UNILATERAL DECISIONS


[This post has been edited by p_n_lahore_pk on Apr 17, 2008 4:29am.]
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4/17/2008 04:51
How come after two years telenor got an idea djuice.pk is their trade mark


[This post has been edited by p_n_lahore_pk on Apr 17, 2008 4:52am.]
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4/17/2008 08:15
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4/17/2008 08:55
"I agree with you that PKNIC has done wrong by not listening your side."

You have agreed this? so you have to admit that this is not a legal transfer of domain and it can said as Domain Hijack or Domain Hack.

I fully respect ICANN's rules and fully agree with you that ICANN can decide about domain.

But in my case i have been never notified.

You mentioned

"The decision whether Djuice was the registered as a Trademark (in Pakistan) at the time you registered the domain should be decided by the court.
"

I fully agree with you. So the PKNIC without telling or properly notifying me decided this domain transfer.

Many International variants of djuice are not actually owned by the Telenor

like

djuice.co.uk
DJUICE.TV
DJUICE.WS
djuice.org
djuice.info

So why only djuice.pk is victim of this biased self decision by PKNIC
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4/17/2008 11:14
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4/17/2008 16:11
Well I am sure I had registred this domain before their trade mark approved in Pakistan.


[This post has been edited by p_n_lahore_pk on Apr 17, 2008 4:11pm.]
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4/19/2008 06:21
Dear

Aslam-o-Elikum,

Yesterday I have received some serious threats via telephonic calls
from the DNDRC (Domain Name Dispute Resolution Center for .PK) domains regarding my complaint on the domain djuice.pk, They
have pressurized me to withdraw my complaint.  As a matter of fact I
had already proved them that I have never been contacted by them on
this domain dispute.

Well I have no spare time to indulged any further debate on this issue
so i was forced to withdraw my complaint.

May Allah Help My Pakistan from these Brutal Forces

Regards
Imtiaz
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4/19/2008 06:49
copy of e-mail send to DNDRC

Regarding my domain djuice.pk what ever had happen is not good. Today
this domain have finally been transfer to Telenor Pakistan even though
I have proved that no prior contact either from PKNIC, from DNDR or
any of you assigned arbitrator have been made with me. I am really not
surprised on this unilateral and biased decision and ultimately
transfer of my                              domain as in Pakistan
where Chief justice of Pakistan (Honorable Iftikhar Ch.)  by himself
is fighting for justice how come an ordinary domain owner can expect
any justice or a judicious decision.

Just as a matter of information to keep things clear I would record
some of my observations which may or may not satisfied you for my
claim on this domain djuice.pk

1. The Domain Djuice.PK was not registered with any Bad Faith
2. The time when this domain was registered as per my knowledge
Telenor was not having this as a approved trade mark.
3. Telenor have never made it public that it have applied for Djuice
as a trademark in the media
4. On my website it was clearly written that Djuice.Pk is not
affiliated with Telenor
5. I was not running it as a mobile company It was a blog
6. I have never used term Djuice for my website but it was called as "djuice.pk"

7. As per my knowledge having a trade mark in one country does not
automatically qualify for all other countries that is why still many
variants of the Djuice are not owned by the Telenor

e.g
djuice.co.uk
djuice.tv
djuice.ws
djuice.org
djuice.info

8. The time when i registered my domain the Djuice Trade Mark in the
USA Patent office was expired.
9. In any case if this was legal right for the Telenor to have this
domain this should have been done amicably through rules and
procedures of the DNDRC and PKNIC by properly notifying me on my email
address listed at domain record held by the PKNIC and not on a self
assumed address [email protected]
10. I fully respect ICANN rules and PKNIC policy but in this
particular case it have been implemented wrongly
11. PKNIC and other registrar always give a first opportunity to the
Trade Mark owner to register a domain during sunrise period since by
that time it was not an approved trade mark in Pakistan Telenor did
not applied for the same.

12. Many domains which are listed at http://dotpk.pk/ and owned by a
PKNIC partner websoul are real trade marks  why these have been
allowed by the PKNIC? Is this not against the PKNIC rules and term and
conditions.


Well I have left my case with Allah Almighty as in Pakistan courts by
them self are seeking justice from the Allah. There is no rule of law
in Pakistan. The best thing what i could do was to left my case with
Allah.

And I will defiantly refrain myself from registering any .pk domain in
future and will prefer .asia instead


[This post has been edited by p_n_lahore_pk on Apr 19, 2008 6:50am.]
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Posted By podzap
4/20/2008 04:08
Note that Syria (.sy) has also been engaged in this sort of activity, but even worse - they repossessed some completely generic domain names because they thought that those names were too good for private people to own. If I am not mistaken, similar reports have come out of Bulgaria (.bg).

This is a problem in general with ccTLD (country code top level domains). This is also one of the reasons why dot com is so popular.
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